Daniel Negreanu will get crushed in the PokerStars 100-200 NLHE

Its cool to hear you guys critique DN. I'm more of a fan than I am a player, so my mind doesnt think this way. Thanks for doing this.

(I am responding to John)

I rewatched the video and I think you are misquoting me. You are saying that Daniel has trouble with keeping the pot smallish, I don't agree with you there at all. He is known for his small ball style. I think your analysis is the one that has the benefit of hindsight, I was actually talking about the hand as it ACTUALLY played out. Daniel rightly read that this guy was taking shots at him, for him to make a push work he wouldn't have to be right too many times given the size of the pot once the button 4 bets. So I am comfortable with my analysis.

I also disagree with you about playing the 78 out of the small blind. 78 suited is a drawing hand and without the benefit of position in an aggressive game you will find yourself all in and behind quite a bit.

Certainly there are games where your strategy COULD work but I don't think 100-200 is one of those games.

I (and many others) think that DN is a big fish in cash games but your analysis here leaves much to be desired. Pushing with 87s after reraise preflop ? Only call he is gonna get is one that has him beat and excluding

post-facto analysis of the kind seen here (you must play too many donkaments), pushing with suited connector preflop to win a small pot and possibly lose the whole stack with the only equity being fold equity is a recipe for disaster. A much better way to play the hand is to keep the pot small, he could flat call before the flop and take the play from there by being aggressive on the flop or on the turn

depending on texture. That way he keeps his options open and has a variety

of plays at his disposal. The fundamental mistake here being him reraising

out of position with suited connector.

DN is bad because he has no concept of pot control. He wins lots of small pots and extracts min value out of his hands while he loses monsters and pays off ppl too much because of pot odds. Well pot odds don't mean nothing if ppl know his game (which has been the same for years now) and bet accordingly so that they get paid off. Yet he never learns from his mistakes and he keeps on using the same fundamentally flawed style that may work in donkaments but is getting him crushed in cash games.

RealKidPoker

In my room in London and plan on spending the day playing 100-200 NLH on PokerStars right now.

This must be Canadian for yum, yum come get you some.

I suppose it's a matter of perspective. Certainly what you are saying is true regarding implied odds but I think that gets reversed when you are trying to build a stack against inferior opponents. What we are looking at here is a microcosm, if Daniel were playing against all horrible opponents his plays would be more correct. Because he isn't, in my opinion, he is playing incorrectly.

BTW, one of my accounts is called "Hisopponent" this refers to multiple write ups regarding hands where I had Daniel all in (in the main event) and rather than use my name (I believe it was Cardplayer) kept calling me "hisopponent". I sort of liked the idea of just being yet another guy taking on the big ballers, so I added that name to the stable.

He certainly is getting the right odds but his opponents range of hands there really is strongish. The implied value you get from suited connectors is in the fact that you have more information in position. In addition to that why is he not re-raising in these situations, I can tell you, because he is trying to hit his hand. If you need to hit your hands to win the pot ALL of the time that is a recipe for success. I have said this a million times about Daniel and tournaments (I have had the good fortune to be at his table a half dozen times or so), he is in every single hand dinkin and dunkin around but when all the chips are in he typically has the nuts. The implied value you get in tournaments is better because of the value of your stack. One of the biggest criticisms of Daniel is that he does not play a short stack well in tournaments.

While once you see the hands it does appear he has odds IMO he just doesn't have enough to make these calls. BTW he was up to 85k yesterday and dusted it off with. Since his 100k day he has lost almost 80k.

This hand is just a debacle and this is one that got shown down, imagine all the hands that he is flat calling with out of position that don't.

http://bluff.com/fa0aee8-d1

I couldn't hear much from what you were saying, but what I heard was very intresting:P It's pretty funny to see a player who plays 200k live cash games getting beat by these internet pro's